"Husband and Wife are one Flesh" Is the Same as "Three Persons in One"?

A CASE OF FALSE ANALOGY

“HUSBAND AND WIFE ARE ONE FLESH” IS THE SAME WAY AS “THREE PERSONS IN ONE”?

TO INSIST THAT God is three persons but one God (triune God), Trinitarians compared their “trinity” with the “husband and wife relationship.”

A Trinitarian made an attempt to answer our “simple math” argument that shows that the doctrine of Trinity is illogical and does not make sense: "God the Father plus God the Son plus God the Holy Spirit equals One God (1 + 1 + 1 = 1)?"

He claims that this is not a “sound argument” because as what he contend “We see similar use of language in the Bible concerning a husband and wife." This is what he further said:

“We see a husband and wife called both 2 and 1. They are 2 persons, but they are 1 flesh. They are 2 in a different way than they are 1. In the same way, God is 3 in a different way than he is one.”

For him “1 + 1 + 1 = 1” is not wrong because, as he claims, it is similar with “husband and wife as one flesh” which he said is “1 + 1 = 1.” Believing that he made a point, he challenge us to explain how “husband and wife are one flesh.” He said:

“If the INC wishes to affirm this biblical teaching on marriage and continue using this argument about ‘simple math’, they must answer this question: 1 + 1 = 1?”

He challenge us that if we are going to continue using the “simple math argument” that Trinity is wrong because “1 + 1 + 1 = 1” is illogical and does not make sense, he argued that we “must answer this question 1 + 1 = 1?”

Confident that he made a point, he repeated his challenge that we explain how “husband and wife equal one flesh” or as he assumed is 1 + 1 = 1. He even added that if we “were to be consistent” in using the “simple math” argument, he continues to challenge us to answer the question “1 + 1 = 1?”:

“If the INC were to be consistent in how they use this "simple math" argument then they would need to answer the following question:

1 + 1 = 1?

Assuming we cannot answer his question, he immediately accused us of being inconsistent. He said:

“in relation to the unification of a man and a woman in marriage. Thankfully, the INC is inconsistent on this point and accepst marriage as defined in the Bible. Yet, when the INC rejects the 1 + 1 = 1? argument and accepts the 1 + 1 + 1 = 1? argument, they expose themselves to be ignorant of what the doctrine of the Trinity teaches. Obviously, the Bible is not trying to contradict rules of math. The doctrine of the Trinity does not either.”

He argued that we are inconsistent because we reject the 1 + 1 = 1 and accept 1 + 1 + 1 = 1. Are they correct in saying "husband and wife are one flesh" is "1 + 1 = 1"?

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED

In concluding that “husband and wife are one flesh” is “1 + 1 = 1” shows how ignorant the Trinitarians regarding the teachings of the Bible. It is not surprising that they distorted the truth in saying the “husband and wife are flesh” is “1 + 1 = 1” because this is also what they did in the biblical doctrine about the absolute oneness of God, making the biblical doctrine of one true God as “1 + 1 + 1 = 1”.

Are Trinitarians correct in saying that “husband and wife are one flesh” is “1 + 1 = 1”? We don’t know if they don’t know it or they deliberately ignored it just to make a point that the Bible has an explanation in saying the “husband and wife are one flesh.” Apostle Paul explained this in Ephesians 5:31, 23 and 28-29:

“For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.

“For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior.

“Even so husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. For no man ever hates his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, as Christ does the church.” (Ephesians 5:31, 23, 28-29 RSV)

Apostle Paul quoted what the Holy Scriptures says, “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.”

He also explained why husband and wife are one flesh. He said, “For the husband is the HEAD OF THE WIFE... so husbands should love their wives AS THEIR OWN BODIES.”

Thus, the relationship of husband and wife is not “1 + 1 = 1,” but:

head (husband) + body (wife) = one flesh

The Trinitarians distorted the meaning why the Bible said “husband and wife are one flesh.” They are wrong in saying that this is “1 + 1 = 1.” What makes us more certain that Trinitarians are wrong in concluding that “husband and wife are one flesh” is “1 + 1 = 1”? Take note of this following passage:

    

“Because they formerly did not obey, when God's patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, EIGHT PERSONS, were brought safely through water.” (I Peter 3:20-21 ESV, emphasis mine)

The Bible said, “EIGHT PERSONS were brought safely through water.” Who are these eight persons? Noah and his WIFE, Shem and his WIFE, Ham and his WIFE, and Japheth and his WIFE. Thus:

Noah (1)      +    his wife (1)   =   Two (2)

Shem (1)     +    his wife (1)   =   Two (2)

Ham (1)       +    his wife (1)   =   Two (2)

Japheth (1)  +    his wife (1)   =   Two (2)

         EIGHT PERSONS were brought safely

Thus, I agreed with this Trinitarian when he said that “Obviously, the Bible is not trying to contradict rules of math” because “husband and wife are one flesh” is NOT “1 + 1 = 1” but “head (husband) + body (wife) = one flesh.”

Remember what this Trinitarian said:

“If the INC wishes to affirm this biblical teaching on marriage and continue using this argument about ‘simple math’, they must answer this question: 1 + 1 = 1?”

And he also said:

“If the INC were to be consistent in how they use this "simple math" argument then they would need to answer the following question:

1 + 1 = 1?

Thus, Mr. Trinitarian, we are consistent and we are right. WE ARE CONSISTENT in saying that Trinitarians distorted the biblical truth that “the Father alone is the one true God” in saying “1 + 1 + 1 = 1” (God the Father plus God the Son and God the Holy Spirit is One God) and continues to distort the biblical truth in saying that “husband and wife are one” is “1 + 1 = 1.” WE ARE RIGHT that trinity is illogical and does not make sense (“1 + 1 + 1 = 1?”).

CONLEY VS CONLEY

Insisting the falsehood will only lead you to another falsehood. This is what happened when this Trinitarian continues to insist the erroneous doctrine of “Triune God.” When he insists that “1 + 1 + 1 = 1” It led him to another error, “1 + 1 = 1.”

When he continued insisting the erroneous doctrine of the “Triune God,” this Trinitarian end up in contradicting himself. He said:

“We see a husband and wife called both 2 and 1. They are 2 persons, but they are 1 flesh. They are 2 in a different way than they are 1. IN THE SAME WAY, God is 3 in a different way than he is one.[1]” (emphasis mine)

Remember what he said, “They (husband and wife) are 2 in a different way than they are 1. IN THE SAME WAY, God is 3 in a different way than he is one” take note that there’s a footnote. This is what he said in his footnote:

“[1] This discussion of a husband and wife IS NOT MEANT TO BE AN ANALOGY for the being of God. It is simply meant to be an exercise in thinking through how the language used in reference to marriage is similar to the language in the biblical doctrine of the trinity.” (emphasis mine)

Conley: “They (husband and wife) are 2 in a different way than they are 1. IN THE SAME WAY, God is 3 in a different way than he is one” VS Conley: “This discussion of a husband and wife IS NOT MEANT TO BE AN ANALOGY for the being of God.”

“In the same way” NOT an “analogy”?

A CASE OF FALSE ANALOGY

Why did this Trinitarian made a footnote saying that the “discussion of a husband and wife IS NOT MEANT TO BE AN ANALOGY for the being of God”? Because he knew the comparison of the “husband and wife relationship” with the “triune God” is a case of FALSE ANALOGY.

Remember what he said:

“We see a husband and wife called both 2 and 1. They are 2 persons, but they are 1 flesh. They are 2 in a different way than they are 1. IN THE SAME WAY, God is 3 in a different way than he is one.[1]” (emphasis mine)

The Bible explains that husband and wife are one flesh because the husband is the head of his wife, thus:

head (husband) + body (wife) = one flesh

This Trinitarian says “They are 2 in a different way than they are 1. IN THE SAME WAY, God is 3 in a different way than he is one.”

If the husband and wife are one flesh because the husband is the head of his wife and “IN THIS SAME WAY God is three in one, thus in the Trinity, who is the husband and who is the wife? But they are three, so who is the “third party”? Also in the Trinity, who is the head and who is the body? But they are three, so what is the third one?

Trinity is indeed illogical, does not make sense and a fallacious doctrine. What makes this truly a fallacious doctrine? It contradicts the biblical doctrine of the absolute oneness of God, that the Father alone is the one true God:

“Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You...

“And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.” (John 17:1, 3 NKJV)

The Lord Jesus Christ Himself testified that the Father alone is the one true God, and He is the one sent by the one true God.

CONCLUSION

The truth the Bible teaches is that the Father alone is the one true God. So, the teaching that there are three persons in One God is a distortion of the biblical truth regarding the absolute oneness of the true God. The Bible tells us that:

“He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.” (II Peter 3:16 NIV)

Certainly, Mr. Clifford Conley Owens will not be able to come to the knowledge of who the true God is because he rejected those God appointed to teach the true knowledge of God:

“It is the duty of priests to teach the true knowledge of God. People should go to them to learn my will, because they are the messengers of the LORD Almighty.” (Malachi 2:7 TEV)

God Himself commanded us to “go to them to learn my will, because they are the messengers of the LORD Almighty.”